Jewish organisations and Russia protest against "SS march" in Latvia

[Oleg Smirnov]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS
At the post-war Nuremberg trials the Waffen-SS was
condemned as a criminal organisation due to its
connection to the Nazi Party and involvement in numerous
war crimes. Waffen-SS veterans were denied many of the
rights afforded to veterans who had served in the Heer
(army), Luftwaffe (air force) or Kriegsmarine (navy). An
exception was made for Waffen-SS conscripts sworn in
after 1943, who were exempted because of their
involuntary servitude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion
German occupation authorities in Latvia started
conscripting military age men. Draftees were given a
choice between serving in the Waffen-SS Legions, serving
as (German Wehrmacht) auxiliaries, or being sent to a
slave labour camp in Germany. Those who tried to avoid
one of those options were arrested and sent to
concentration camps.[10] As a result, only 15-20% of the
soldiers serving in the legion were actual
volunteers.[6]

If they crave to manifest a pride of their Waffen-SS-ness today
voluntary then the reference to involuntary conscription is
irrelevant regardless of whether it was really involuntary or not.

[A. Filip]

Post by Oleg Smirnov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS
At the post-war Nuremberg trials the Waffen-SS was
condemned as a criminal organisation due to its
connection to the Nazi Party and involvement in numerous
war crimes. Waffen-SS veterans were denied many of the
rights afforded to veterans who had served in the Heer
(army), Luftwaffe (air force) or Kriegsmarine (navy). An
exception was made for Waffen-SS conscripts sworn in
after 1943, who were exempted because of their
involuntary servitude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion
German occupation authorities in Latvia started
conscripting military age men. Draftees were given a
choice between serving in the Waffen-SS Legions, serving
as (German Wehrmacht) auxiliaries, or being sent to a
slave labour camp in Germany. Those who tried to avoid
one of those options were arrested and sent to
concentration camps.[10] As a result, only 15-20% of the
soldiers serving in the legion were actual
volunteers.[6]

If they crave to manifest a pride of their Waffen-SS-ness today
voluntary then the reference to involuntary conscription is irrelevant
regardless of whether it was really involuntary or not.

It is irrelevant *for you* . It is quite important for me, even if it is
not the most important for judging "manifesting a pride of their
Waffen-SS-ness _today_ ".

Soviet/Russian "take over" in 1940 seems to make difference
*for many Latvians*. Their "sitting point" is different,
is not it?

[Oleg Smirnov]

Post by A. Filip

Post by Oleg Smirnov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS
At the post-war Nuremberg trials the Waffen-SS was
condemned as a criminal organisation due to its
connection to the Nazi Party and involvement in numerous
war crimes. Waffen-SS veterans were denied many of the
rights afforded to veterans who had served in the Heer
(army), Luftwaffe (air force) or Kriegsmarine (navy). An
exception was made for Waffen-SS conscripts sworn in
after 1943, who were exempted because of their
involuntary servitude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion
German occupation authorities in Latvia started
conscripting military age men. Draftees were given a
choice between serving in the Waffen-SS Legions, serving
as (German Wehrmacht) auxiliaries, or being sent to a
slave labour camp in Germany. Those who tried to avoid
one of those options were arrested and sent to
concentration camps.[10] As a result, only 15-20% of the
soldiers serving in the legion were actual
volunteers.[6]

If they crave to manifest a pride of their
Waffen-SS-ness today voluntary then the reference to
involuntary conscription is irrelevant regardless of
whether it was really involuntary or not.

It is irrelevant *for you* .

No, it's just logically irrelevant.

Post by A. Filip
It is quite important for
me, even if it is not the most important for judging
"manifesting a pride of their Waffen-SS-ness _today_ ".
Soviet/Russian "take over" in 1940 seems to make
difference *for many Latvians*. Their "sitting point" is
different, is not it?

You seem to not quite understand what you want.

[A. Filip]

Post by Oleg Smirnov

Post by A. Filip

Post by Oleg Smirnov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS
At the post-war Nuremberg trials the Waffen-SS was
condemned as a criminal organisation due to its
connection to the Nazi Party and involvement in numerous
war crimes. Waffen-SS veterans were denied many of the
rights afforded to veterans who had served in the Heer
(army), Luftwaffe (air force) or Kriegsmarine (navy). An
exception was made for Waffen-SS conscripts sworn in
after 1943, who were exempted because of their
involuntary servitude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion
German occupation authorities in Latvia started
conscripting military age men. Draftees were given a
choice between serving in the Waffen-SS Legions, serving
as (German Wehrmacht) auxiliaries, or being sent to a
slave labour camp in Germany. Those who tried to avoid
one of those options were arrested and sent to
concentration camps.[10] As a result, only 15-20% of the
soldiers serving in the legion were actual
volunteers.[6]

If they crave to manifest a pride of their
Waffen-SS-ness today voluntary then the reference to
involuntary conscription is irrelevant regardless of
whether it was really involuntary or not.

It is irrelevant *for you* .

No, it's just logically irrelevant.

Post by A. Filip
It is quite important for
me, even if it is not the most important for judging
"manifesting a pride of their Waffen-SS-ness _today_ ".
Soviet/Russian "take over" in 1940 seems to make
difference *for many Latvians*. Their "sitting point" is
different, is not it?

You seem to not quite understand what you want.

I merely wanted to show that "supporting Russian/Putin stance" is not
_always_ unquestionably bad. Do you want me to see my _huge_ mistake? ;-)

[Oleg Smirnov]

Post by A. Filip

Post by Oleg Smirnov

Post by A. Filip

Post by Oleg Smirnov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS
At the post-war Nuremberg trials the Waffen-SS was
condemned as a criminal organisation due to its
connection to the Nazi Party and involvement in
numerous war crimes. Waffen-SS veterans were denied
many of the rights afforded to veterans who had
served in the Heer (army), Luftwaffe (air force) or
Kriegsmarine (navy). An exception was made for
Waffen-SS conscripts sworn in after 1943, who were
exempted because of their involuntary servitude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion
German occupation authorities in Latvia started
conscripting military age men. Draftees were given a
choice between serving in the Waffen-SS Legions,
serving as (German Wehrmacht) auxiliaries, or being
sent to a slave labour camp in Germany. Those who
tried to avoid one of those options were arrested and
sent to concentration camps.[10] As a result, only
15-20% of the soldiers serving in the legion were
actual volunteers.[6]

If they crave to manifest a pride of their
Waffen-SS-ness today voluntary then the reference to
involuntary conscription is irrelevant regardless of
whether it was really involuntary or not.

It is irrelevant *for you* .

No, it's just logically irrelevant.

Post by A. Filip
It is quite important for
me, even if it is not the most important for judging
"manifesting a pride of their Waffen-SS-ness _today_ ".
Soviet/Russian "take over" in 1940 seems to make
difference *for many Latvians*. Their "sitting point"
is different, is not it?

You seem to not quite understand what you want.

I merely wanted to show that "supporting Russian/Putin
stance" is not _always_ unquestionably bad. Do you want
me to see my _huge_ mistake? ;-)

It's too intricate.

I'm for sanity afore someone else's stance.